Sunday, July 11, 2010

Conversation...

hello my very good friend

how are you?

J:
Hello! I am good, and honored!

How are you?

Me :
I am good as well, just a bit busy with the publications

J:
;);)

Me :
where do you live?

J :
Oh, I am so far away! I am in Washington State in USA, the Northwest corner.

Me :
I am in Varanasi

J :
And you have a new school?

Me :
a new Ashram, yes, near the university

J :
Oh, that is good to be near the university, I would think.
I so wanted to attend Bhagavan's birthday celebration.

Me :
please come whenever you want to

J :
I have really enjoyed the Vedanta Society. It is similar to mine, and is serious work.

Me :
yes, quite serious and sincere

J :
Yes! Sincere!

J :
You know, India has contributed so much to spirituality, and she should be healthier.
How can I help?

Me :
lets work together to build a consciousness about spirituality which would be beyond any narrow mindedness or sectarianism

J :
Oh, yes! I am so for this! Shouldn't we all be learning about the same thing, really. We just have had different ways of coming upon it.

Me :
yes

J :
And then we need to be able to live it!

Me :
most of the spiritual worker gets struck to a particular form thereby loosing the universal outlook

J :
Right. so true. then we actually fear the new news.

Me :
they infact harm humanity because in the process of preaching peace and love, they preach very dangerous sectarianism

J :
Yes, it usually still come with an accusal of some kind as well...

Me :
I want to work with everybody and help people , no matter he/she follows Jesus or Buddha or Krishna or Allah

J :
So great, I have sensed that!

Me :
yes

J :
The more I learn the more I have appreciated that other sects have really concentrated on an area which is essential to fit with the whole puzzle.

Me :
yes, the puzzle which will never be solved till we are within the limitations of mind

J :
Well, here in the U.S. the big challenge is to realize that we have one!

Me :
I can help you in this regard
to realize

J :
Soon the consciousness of matter will need to pop out from under the microscope to say hello! Then we might learn what is in control.

Me :
it wont
it cannot be felt through senses

J :
So far, it is hoping that the scientist will tell it something about itself.

Me :
we can come to a conclusion, but, its impossible to know that through senses
we have to become that if we want to feel
and the moment we transcend our senses, we start to realize

J :
This is true, the scientist would need to have their own developed consciousness to hear of course.

Me :
yes

Judy :
That will be the day!

Me :
when the medium of understanding disappears, then does the one beyond comprehension manifest

J :
This is why we have always had to have faith instead of full comprehension.

Me :
yes faith and then make efforts to make it a confirmed knowledge

J :
We just have to begin to try with faith, and then we may have confirmation. This is what most Christians have done. Since Christian Scientists prove their health with it, we have a lot of confirmation.

Me :
yes, faith is the basis of all religion

J :
You know, though, it is really love which is the required ingredient.

Me :
love comes from inside
its the purest product of devotion and honesty

J :
Surely, and it needs to go out and be given.

Me :
whatever comes from inside will definitely go out spontaneously

J :
Right. without honesty we have not much.

Me :
any effort in that regard will make it an intellectual exercise

J :
This is where I find that although we do need to learn self, love self and appreciate what is there, we need to challenge the belief that others are not able, because we will never have our own thoughts pure.

Me :
spirituality starts from the point where you stop bothering about others and concentrate within yourself
the whole world you will find is within you
separation is such an illusion

J :
This is true, we must make ourselves responsible for what we experience from others.

Me :
that others is also the outcome of your own thought and actions
there is no other

J :
It is God from which we can never be separated, and since God is with all, we are really not different.

Me :
there is only One seen or perceived differently into different names and forms
God is not with all, God is all that is
there is no other existence than God

J :
It does seem to all have similar concerns to us, I have even checked this!
So that if we do not love these other things, and we do have the same God with us, it is difficult to then think we will have support for this.

Me :
to love others, you have to love God only

J :
It is to love God first, and then all else.

Me :
love God only

J :
Well, then we have to be very inclusive and correct about what we are loving.

Me
yes, that's why discrimination is a must for aspirants

J :
Yes!!

Me :
love Him till you feel that whatever there is, is all but Him

J :
Yes, I like that idea.

Me :
this is Vedanta

J :
That is lovely.

Me :
thanks

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